Sunday Night CrossFit Talk | Are the Rumors True?

We sit down and talk about the season rumors that have been leaking, what we know, what we think and what we hope for. We have qualifiers at Wodapalooza and Fittest on the Coast, Rogue releases some information.  And one of our favorites announces she is pregnant!

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What's going on, everybody?

Welcome to Sunday, Sunday,

Sunday night CrossFit talk.

I'm really not that in a good mood.

I'm trying to play that on TV.

Why are you not in a good mood, Scott?

Please expand.

Because Hail Mary should be

outlawed in the NFL.

my beloved Chicago Bears,

who should not have won the game.

Let me put that out first.

Somehow their quarterback

came alive in the fourth quarter.

They got ahead because their

defense had kept them in

the game the whole time.

And then with twenty three seconds left,

Jane Daniels hit a couple

of short passes and then

threw a fifty two yard Hail Mary.

To beat my beloved Chicago

Bears with no time remaining.

It was like perfectly caught in his hands.

He just stood there behind

all of the people.

It just went bounce and present.

So the Bears have a lot of

players on their team that

are six foot tall or taller.

Why do they put their five

foot nine guys back there

to knock down the ball?

Oh.

knock it down the poor guy

jumped as high as he could

and all he could do was

touch it and all it did was

tip it up for the guy in

the back of the end zone to

catch it so frustrated but

I have a rookie quarterback

on my team that looks like

he's coming alive,

looks like he's learning a lot,

and hopefully will be very

good very soon.

Just have to get through his

growing pains.

On another note,

you and I made a

last-minute bet that I

wasn't even going to make

bets on my teams anymore

because I kept losing them all.

And so I just decided I

wasn't going to do it.

And you sent me a last-minute bet.

And my Penn State Nittany

Lions went into Madison, Wisconsin,

and beat the Wisconsin Badgers.

I had a good feeling.

I was like, it's at Camp Randall.

We always get this one big

win every year against a

top-ranked opponent.

And I just had a good feeling.

And they started off fine,

and then we lost it.

Yeah,

you had me worried when our

quarterback went out at halftime,

but the backup played as well,

if not better.

And yeah,

super stoked for how they played.

Now,

who are we going to have against Ohio

State next week when that's

going to be tough?

But that game's at home,

so hopefully... Because I

live in Columbus.

Losing that Ohio State game

is awful for me every year.

And Penn state loses it.

Eighty percent of the time.

So I was hoping this year

would be different.

That's going to be a tough game to win.

Yeah.

Although they,

Ohio state looked terrible yesterday.

I didn't,

I didn't get to watch their game.

They play.

So I was at a friend of ours.

They had a twenty fifth

wedding anniversary yesterday.

So I was at their house and

they had the game on.

They looked they Ohio State

looked terrible for the

highest paid team in college football.

They did not live up to that for sure.

I wonder,

I don't know what they played

yesterday afternoon.

Yeah, noon, the noon game.

Lex and I,

I think we were doing like an

obstacle course.

Oh, I have that on my agenda,

my private agenda.

I think that was during the game,

so we didn't get to watch it.

We were playing, having fun.

Julian Iford says Penn State

is winning it this year.

Ohio State sucks.

I'll take that.

But anyway, our bet was death by burpees.

Oh, originally.

No, no.

What was it originally?

Death by assault bike.

Yeah.

But you said, I wish it was burpees.

And I said,

I would take death by burpees

as a substitute.

Yeah.

So at some point this week,

we'll see Carolyn do some

death by burpees.

And I think that's the first

sports bet I've won on this show.

ever so I will take that as

a win because everything

else seems like it's

falling apart um tonight

for me and jamie's probably

smiling because their lions

lost their beat or whatever

the lions killed in their

game and now they're

another game ahead of the bears yeah um

Carolyn,

you mentioned that you were doing

something yesterday,

so I'm going to show that

because I wanted to ask you.

I know you've tried High Rocks this year.

Now are you going American Ninja Warrior?

No.

I do like playground stuff like this,

though.

So is it like a ninja gym or

just like a playground?

It's called obstacle course.

I think it's called pursuit,

but it's like an obstacle course.

There's a bunch of things like that.

Like we probably didn't film like three,

I mean, eighty percent of it.

But I was a little sore this morning.

I hadn't done some of that

stuff in a while.

Can I say?

Yeah.

Lex found it yesterday for

an activity to do.

I did the salmon ladder.

That was fun.

How did that salmon ladder go?

I would often get one side.

so I was like not pulling evenly.

The bar was thicker than the

one I had done before.

Um,

but I didn't want to commit too much to

that one.

I don't want to fall back.

And like, I was like,

I was being cautious in

what I was doing still.

I don't think we're allowed

to use our feet there,

but it just seemed much easier.

I think it was just what,

they call it something from

bar to bar um by kipping

from one to another but

yeah it looks awesome looks

like a good time yeah the

tricycle is my favorite

part just going around racing

Where is this at?

Is this in California?

No, in Toronto.

Oh, okay.

Lex came for the weekend just to visit.

And then we'll be going to

Scotland in a few weeks together.

So she had planned this trip

a while back before.

So do you guys know Michelle Wonky?

she's an american ninja

warrior one of the like

first women way back in the

day um she lives here in

columbus just in the

neighborhood south of me

and she has an american

ninja warrior gym here oh

cool they messaged us after

because we tagged them and

then they're like I'll come

back for more obstacle

course stuff we'll invite

you guys to some more

sessions and we're like

okay I'd like to do it learn a

Yeah, super cool.

There's a lot of technical

stuff that are in that,

like in those challenges.

So lots to learn.

Well, Jamie,

you had a tennis banquet today.

Last year took like seven hours.

Yeah.

I want to say it was like

four hours last year.

It was, let's see,

like three hours and

fifteen minutes this year.

So, I mean, I'm pretty close to on time,

so it wasn't terrible at all.

Yeah.

how'd it go it was good it's

the he does the paper plate

awards um so he like comes

up with the story and draws

a picture on there and so

he goes through he comes up

with a story for every kid

and those are what take a

while and then there's like

a video at the end but yeah

it was good it was a nice

banquet we eat it we go to

msu we eat at brody hall

which is like kind like a

it's just an it's like

thirteen bucks all you can

eat and you there's like

seven different lines that

you can go through you can

get a home style you can

get a pizza you can get a

burger you can get um like

an asian inspired um so

yeah lots of stuff sounds

like it and now senior year

tennis is over

It is over.

Yep.

That was that.

Well, last week was the end of the season.

So, yep.

I think he might try to do

some winter stuff.

I mean, I think he,

he's still interested in sort of playing.

So,

and there's like UTR is universal

tennis rating.

You get a rating and you can

play matches all over.

One of our local clubs

around here has that.

So I'll probably still try

to do some of that.

Corey nails it.

All you can eat right up Jamie's alley.

I've seen that girl.

Lex and I went for

all-you-can-eat sushi tonight.

It was fun.

I'm full.

We did that with my daughter

in Pittsburgh.

It was the best.

So good.

I just let my daughter order

whatever she wanted,

and I just picked off her plate.

I paid for it as well,

but I just let her make the

choices because it was made to order.

I was like, just get what you want,

and I'll eat off of that.

That was pretty cool.

Yes, Michigan State.

Not going to say the little brother.

Well, the game wasn't great yesterday,

but started out pretty good.

Whoops.

Kipping it real says,

you know what I do when I'm

sad about football or anything?

I write a song.

Okay.

So anyway, that's the sports.

It's been a crazy sports week.

The World Series has been unreal.

The Friday night game one

was off the chain with the

Grand Slam and extra

innings to win the game and the Dodgers.

Yeah.

not a big dodgers fan but I

hate the yankees so uh

rooting la at this point um

and then what they won last

night which was pretty cool

uh the new york liberty

right after we got off the

air it was so close when we

were on the air and it went

into overtime when we got

off the air and then what a

finish uh every game was

tight off that game could

have went that series could

have went ten games and

still been entertaining

Yeah,

next year they changed the playoff

format to go to seven games

for the finals.

That'll be much better.

Yeah.

But college football's been

insane this year.

Everything's been so good.

it's all going to like,

we have everything all at once right now.

And then now WNBA is over.

Baseball is going to be over in a week.

Things are going to start

going by the wayside and

then we'll have less to watch.

Hopefully it stays,

stays fun throughout the

rest of the year.

So we're going to start off today's show,

the CrossFit part,

with just a couple quick announcements.

First one is Kelly Baker,

Kelly Baker Shirley,

a big friend of the show.

She was a part of All Access,

which Carolyn was a part of last season.

She announced this week that

she is pregnant with a little girl.

And she retired or stepped

back from the sport this

past season to start a family.

So the fact that that happened was really,

really cool.

And I texted her Friday and

had a little conversation.

And she's so stoked.

It's so cool that this happened for them.

I love the little video she

put out with her.

you know, going through it all,

trying to get pregnant and

then calling her sister and

mom and everyone,

and then getting together.

I was very cute video.

Um, yeah,

the video going through it all

and all the shots and the,

you could see the pain on her face,

what she was doing to have

the kid and her husband that is a doctor.

So the fact that he could

administer those shots for her, um,

that was really cool.

So, uh, and Zach is awesome.

So I know CrossFit is saying

that he outkicked his coverage with Kelly,

but Zach's a great, great guy.

Um, super smart, um,

and really fun to talk to.

He's, he's just an awesome, awesome guy.

Yeah.

I'm sure they would both say

they both lucked out.

Yeah.

I mean, he is a doctor.

Right.

Exactly.

So.

Yeah, yeah.

So that was announced.

And then CrossFit announced

their new YouTube training channel,

I think a couple weeks ago,

but really started

activating it this week.

um they've done uh some

videos they've done some

lives I caught the uh

nicole carroll uh I just

saw her at an affiliate

gathering she's irish yeah

is it denise denise yeah

yeah so I watched their

live it was so good so good um

I watched the high school

one that talked about

sports-specific training

and CrossFit because that

one interested me for the topic.

That was good as well.

I watched the one with Chuck Carr as well.

And there was one other one

that I was going to try to

go back and watch.

But yeah, they've been good.

Yeah.

I know...

there was a, to be a pro coach, like to,

for elite athletes.

Yeah.

I caught a little bit of that one.

I didn't,

I wasn't able to get the whole

way through, but that was Adrian Conway.

And, um, uh, gosh,

I am so brain dead after this hail Mary.

Um, uh, Justin Madaris is coach Adams.

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

Two of them did that.

Um,

the little bit I caught was really good.

I just didn't get to, uh,

watch the whole thing.

They have, like Craig said here,

they have a lot,

a lot of movement videos

that got released as well

as like scaling different movements.

Like they have scales for

wall walks and pistols and

variations of different things.

So a huge movement library,

we can call it.

that they've added to the

YouTube channel so that you

should be able to just search a movement.

And now hopefully CrossFit

comes out like that YouTube

channel starts coming out

first for people that are

searching those videos and technique.

I did notice the dumbbell

box step up was one of the

movements they added.

That might've been like the

first one that came up.

Yeah.

Might've been about five months too late.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Uh, but yeah, that would have, uh, uh,

everybody keeps bringing up

the hail Mary salt in the wound guys.

Come on, let me get on with the show.

All right.

So let's talk about some

qualifiers that have been

going on this week.

Um, what a Palooza qualifiers happened.

The second part of them had

happened this week and we

have the leaderboard from the first part.

So I can pull up the

leaderboard from the first part,

and then we'll talk about

the workouts for the second part.

Yeah, the leaderboard gets closed, I think,

tomorrow night at eight p.m.

And then the video review after that.

And then here comes the teams of three,

I think, soon that will start.

So this is the men elite to RX.

Not a lot of big names in this part.

um leonel franco but if you

look at who gets the invite

and can bypass the

qualifier I think it's like

the top seven or eight from

last year's waterpalooza

you have all of the

crossfit games athletes

from this year that get

invited um so it's normally

normal like it's normal to

not see as many top games

athletes I guess on the

leaderboard um because a

lot of them do have the

opportunity to bypass this

Is this the leaderboard right now?

This is the leaderboard as

it stands right now.

Yeah,

so that'll get shifted also because

there's scores that are

already in from this week right now.

So those scores are going

ahead and pushing back some

of the people that were leading last week,

if I were to assume.

Oh,

this isn't a hidden leaderboard until

the close?

If you go out to Alex Katoulis,

I think these names are

starting to be the ones I

haven't posted for week two.

If you go back up a little bit,

I think it was the Italian

guy or something.

Some of these are having

their fourth score is in or

their fifth score.

That's why it's not up to

date in terms of what it was last week.

Nick Matthews, the first one without

The fourth score.

No, there's someone there.

Pedro Martins.

Yeah, I think Pedro Martins was in first,

actually.

Then possibly Nick Matthews.

He's the first one without a

fourth workout.

And then you'll start

getting people in between,

like you're seeing George Sterner.

He was a teen athlete back then,

wasn't he?

Or am I wrong thinking that?

George Sterner.

And then that's a lot of them down here.

Okay, so we will not do the leaderboards.

What was... I think on the female side,

it was the Irish...

teenager that was really

good um lucy we gotta go

yeah lucy campbell is also

on the leaderboard she just

had a tough lifting wad but

she crushed the other two

workouts she was just

outside the cut line um

yeah there's there's a few

good names I feel like the

field might be I recognize

more of the female side

names than the men's side

but it could be because I

have a bias there um

Um,

so here is the next two workouts that

were due this week.

Indie workout for you did this Carolyn?

No, I did not.

Okay.

So this was four times, ten, ten, twenty,

thirty, forty,

fifty wall balls and then

five by fifty foot shuttle

runs after each round.

I like the ascending reps.

You're getting that Karen workout with,

you know, some running,

but not so much running

either that you're just

doing a bunch of shuttle runs.

The best would be unbroken.

Yeah.

The Indy number five was

beginning on an eight minute clock,

two rounds, eighteen deadlifts,

eighteen pull ups

immediately into three

rounds of twelve deadlifts,

twelve chest to bar.

If completed before eight minutes,

add four minutes and

proceed to four rounds of nine deadlifts,

nine bar muscle-ups,

immediately into an AMRAP

of three deadlifts and

three burpee bar muscle-ups.

I love that one.

I like that one.

I would love that one.

I did try it,

but that would be a very good

workout for me.

That seems right up your alley.

Yep, very much.

Pulling gymnastics and deadlift,

that's really good.

The weight on that is three-fifteen,

two-twenty-five.

Oh, it goes up.

It starts at one-thirty-five, ninety-five.

One-eighty-five, one-twenty-five.

Two-twenty-five, one-fifty-five.

Then three-fifteen, two-twenty-five.

That's a good workout.

I like that.

And then once those two are done,

they'll be entered on the

leaderboard and the

leaderboard will finalize

at tomorrow night.

They're off to be in by tomorrow night.

Yeah.

It reminds me a little bit of, um,

fittest of the coasts, final workout,

just jump rope instead of deadlift.

Cause that was pull-ups

three rounds for pull-ups,

two rounds of chest bar,

one round of bar muscle ups.

Well, that was my next pull up for, um,

cause I know you've been

doing fittest of the coast.

Sure have.

Did you see my score?

I have not.

Is there a leaderboard on the web?

Yeah.

Okay.

What is the qualifier done for that one?

Like, what do you mean?

Is the qualifier done for it?

So that leaderboard will close Tuesday.

So the workout that I just said,

the one with the pull-ups, chest part,

that one's due Tuesday.

Okay.

There's one more week of it?

This is the last week.

This is the last workout.

It's been one workout a week.

Just like the Open.

I would not like this one.

No.

You wouldn't have liked the double-unders.

Look at those double-unders.

No way.

It was a good workout.

At least it would be paired

with the strength of mine,

but it wouldn't matter.

It's not enough of the gymnastics.

I would get crushed in this.

The masters for this was,

it was way too scaled.

Um,

I honestly don't know why thirty five

to at least forty five

wasn't doing this workout.

They did like ninety less

jump rope and thirty less

pull-ups.

Um, it was essentially a sprint.

And I mean, it just, it goes back to like,

this is why the masters

groups are not improving their fitness,

especially their gymnastics, dense sets,

because they keep scaling things.

And like people can skate by

on these workouts that, um,

I mean,

what you want to be able to do is

do fifteen unbroken bar

muscle ups at the end.

That's how you're going to

win this workout.

And it was just it was just

a little I feel like a

little bit too easy in the

thirty five and up category.

They just keep pushing heavy

weights and don't push enough gymnastics,

dense sets.

But we'll see the scores on that one.

Yeah,

last week's I crushed last week's

workout.

I was like four reps behind

Taylor Williamson.

So she got.

I got three hundred sixty five.

I got three hundred sixty one.

It was the total of our workout.

Here is the men's top score so far,

fittest to the coast.

Is your leaderboard hidden?

It is.

OK, so are you like that?

Do you think you think that

the open should have a

hidden leaderboard until

like the release on the Monday?

Or would that just be a shit

show of fake scores on the

Monday and problems with people?

Because, I mean, throughout the Open,

when you start seeing scores, you're like,

okay,

this is not a real score out of there.

Right.

You start cleaning up the leaderboard.

Do you think that the Open could ever –

I don't know.

Like in one hand,

I think it may keep people

slightly more honest.

Like you aren't seeing,

you aren't seeing like the

score that you need to try

to beat now or what,

but would it also like,

I'm trying to think,

could somebody like not

know what a good score is

and just do something like

absolutely ridiculous, like almost cheat,

like too much and put in, but I,

I guess those would be like

easily identifiable just

like they already are.

Um,

know I yeah I think keeping

it private until monday

wouldn't necessarily be a

bad idea but yeah this it

is private until I've been

devil's advocate to that

whole thing but maybe let's

get to that when we talk

about what the season

should look like a little

bit later um so this is the

men's leaderboard for

fittest to the coast um

I know some of these names

from semi-finals.

Um, my coach at Polaris is in third.

Nice.

Uh, so that's Alexander majors.

Um,

so that's pretty cool seeing him there.

Yeah.

I didn't even know that till

I pulled this up.

Uh, the pro RX female, um,

McKenna insulin that's page.

Some ends his training partner,

Sabrina Taylor.

Taylor,

Elena Pomerisi was part of our all

access coverage last year.

Caroline Klutz.

Are you on this leaderboard?

I am not on this leaderboard.

I probably should have signed up for this,

but are people able to do

both then leaderboards?

Like you said that you're

right behind Taylor.

Is that,

are you just comparing to the

individual that workout?

Okay.

I was just looking at that

workout score last.

I don't know how old she is, but.

Um,

so we did the same workout because I'm

doing the pro team.

Gotcha.

So individual or pro team.

Correct.

Are you not doing masters?

Correct.

It's because it's different

workouts and I'm not,

I wasn't trying to mess around with that.

It's not, it's different.

And like I said,

like I would have to do

each workout twice because

last week's would have been

lighter weights.

This week's would have been

less jump rope.

So I had to do the workout

two times and I was not

messing around with that.

So who is your team?

Blackout or get out.

We're in twelve.

How many qualify?

Sixteen.

Okay.

Who is your teammate?

Haley.

Oh, is she back?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

That's not us.

That's thirteen.

That is black sheep.

There you go.

Okay.

So you guys are back to training together?

Mm-hmm.

That's awesome.

Yep.

Um, yeah, this, this I've heard,

this is a great event.

I tried to go do media there

last year and was denied.

So I don't know.

Um, I may try to go back again,

but have you enjoyed the qualifier?

Has it been,

so sometimes qualifiers are an

interruption to training

and sometimes that you can

fit them into training.

Yeah.

What about the Wadapalooza

ones you could fit into training?

So I prefer the way

Wadapalooza is two weeks, three,

three or four workouts,

or I think it was only two

workouts this week, but yeah,

like you get it and it's like,

I kind of hate the ones is

as much as like, you say,

like you would have even more time.

Like the ones that I think,

I think legends gave you

like three or four weeks for four,

four workouts or something.

It was absolutely ridiculous.

Then you're just like, sure.

You could fit that in anywhere,

but you're also like,

that's when people are doing

them three times each, you know,

like it's just way too,

way too much strategy going into it.

And like, I just like get the workout,

do it on a Friday and a Saturday,

submit the scores, go, um, this, this,

I would say, yeah, it's, it's,

you just kind of do it on

like either a Friday or a

Tuesday you pick, um,

and go about your training.

I've been not trying to like,

I'm trying to like,

just keep my training exactly the same.

So I did

I did the throw down workout

for training think tank on Thursday,

which was sixty burpee box

jump over thirty bar muscle ups.

And then I did this workout the next day.

So, like,

I did a shit ton of bar muscle ups.

But that's fine.

Like, that doesn't bother me.

Could I have had a better

score maybe if I hadn't

done the thirty bar muscle

ups the day before?

Which sucked because then I

saw it kill Taylor and I was like,

I want to do that.

But I was like,

I can't do bar muscle ups

for a third day in a row.

I was like, I love that workout.

So the last thing we'll talk about,

and I don't have this in the notes,

but Patrick just got back

from Germany from the Oslo Throwdown.

Great event at an amazing venue.

Vendor Village was packed.

Over a thousand athletes competed.

And I know on the elite teams, my girl,

Mathilde Garnes,

and her partner won that event.

I can't remember his name offhand,

but I know they won.

So super happy for her.

And later Patrick talks

about Kristen Holta was

back on the competition

floor and it's always fun

to see her back out there.

She's just a legend and super stoked.

Anytime we get a chance to see her,

her out there.

She's incredible.

Matilde's partner is Heinrich.

So, yeah.

I saw a picture on her

Instagram of them kissing as they run.

It was exciting to see that.

CrossFit's killing it in Europe, right?

And maybe they're doing some

things that we're not doing well here.

And that's why.

So Rogue have made a few

announcements this week.

They announced who all the

legends are going to be.

Pretty much the same as all

the other years.

And it's always good to see them.

But I'm going to pull up a picture.

This was early in the week.

We talked about it earlier

this week on another show.

But our very own Carolyn Prevost

Got her picture put up by

Rogue traversing this very

long horizontal pegboard.

So I don't want to ask you

any specifics about this

other than what is easier,

the rings to the pegs in

the jungle gym that you did

earlier in this show or this?

They're very different.

hard to like it was funny

because there was there was

like a pegboard that I

could have done but there

was no pegs there at the

place they're just very

different um yeah it's not

it's not really the same

thing because you're having

I was having to go up on

this uh obstacle course

that I was doing with the

rings and then across and

then back down um it's not

the same but and just so

the audience is aware

The reason I'm not asking

her is because if you've

watched the show for any

length of time at all,

Carolyn is very into the

integrity of the sport.

And anything she knows about

something that's going to

be in a competition,

she will keep to herself.

And we as a show will respect that.

So even though she's done this,

that's why I cannot ask her

about it because she

believes in the integrity

of the sport and would

never do anything to break

that confidence.

that Katie and Bill

Hunnegiver have in her to

allow like I've had I've

had a few athletes reach

out for tips on it and I

like I can't give any

specific and it's like this

is the reason why it's

being released early so

people can figure it out

and practice like it's not

me to give anything um like

it's an honor for me to get

chosen to like to have

Rogue trust me to test the

workouts so I don't

want to ever jeopardize

anything like that.

And yeah,

having a fair competition is

extremely important to me as an athlete.

I hate when there's leaks, um,

or people that know things

and it's just not fair.

So I would never want to be

that person that creates a

competition that's just not fair.

So yeah, I can't talk about anything,

but it's there for people to see.

And, um,

I've already seen that some people have,

um, been playing around with it.

I think Emma McQuaid posted like

her attempt of it.

Um, she had it mounted to her rig.

Um,

if you go to most like Ninja warrior

places,

I feel like they would have some

sort of horizontal pegboard to try.

Um, it's not gonna be the exact holes or,

but it's, you know, they,

they have a couple of weeks to practice.

Yeah.

It'll make a big difference

to have touches on it for sure.

I did not get that.

Um,

CrossFit says,

I assumed Rogue only had

deadlift content of Carolyn.

Yeah, they also says,

high school wrestling rooms

always had these.

Cool.

And they also...

If you guys remember,

I did a show with Hattie

Cano where she was training in Bali.

During that time,

she went to Elphitt in Egypt,

and they had these in competition there.

They were not this long.

Not this long at all.

But she talked about it,

and she actually made up a

lot of ground on this event

because a lot of people struggled.

So...

So not the first time it's being used,

but definitely the first time at this.

Yeah.

I mean,

if they struggle with these level

of athletes though.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I feel like people have been

talking about this movement

for a couple of years now

after the Egypt one for sure.

Or the outfit.

What was it called?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And to see, you know,

the top athletes in the

sport get to do it.

It'll be, it'll be good.

Well,

and what's even to be better is

they've also announced

they're bringing back the

premium streaming package,

which I took part in last year.

And they say it's going to

be better this year.

They're adding more angles, more cameras,

and more stuff.

Yeah.

If you did not try this out last year,

their premium stream,

and you're not going to be in Scotland,

it is worth every cent of

the twenty five dollars.

You get to pick the angle

you want to watch.

So when we're always

complaining about how the

stream only shows the same

two athletes during an event,

it's your choice to move

the camera to another angle

and watch that with this coverage.

you also get to pick between

the traditional broadcast

and the tailgate broadcast

which is um last year was

hosted by pat sherwood and

he had guests like josh

bridges rich froning jason

kalipa annie thor's

daughter katrin david's

daughter and they gave their input

yeah into the event the best

was josh because he's the

one that um did the

programming for the event

so he could give his input

tell stories about what

katie made him switch what

katie said no to um things

like that which made it

really really interesting

is it josh and chris again

this year helping program

josh chris and katie yeah yeah cool

Yeah.

Uh,

Craig echoes premium coverage was great

last year.

Uh, so it was, and it does, uh,

it is kind of a man in cast vibe.

Um,

they'd pay less attention to the action

on the floor, uh,

and just kind of talk about

overarching things about it.

Now, if something amazing happens,

they definitely like jump into that.

Um,

But it just gives you an

alternative so you're not

listening to the same voice

the entire weekend.

I bounced around a little

bit back and forth.

It was...

Why not make the premium

coverage level the coverage?

Because they're charging

twenty five dollars for it.

It probably helps them recoup some funds.

If it keeps growing,

you give one version for free.

Anybody can watch and not pay a cent.

And you have the premium

coverage helps you kind of

offset the cost of the streaming.

I think it's a brilliant idea.

the NFL does it like, you know,

local channels show games every week.

If you don't want to watch

the Cleveland Browns or

Cincinnati Bengals here in Columbus,

you have an option to buy a

package that allows you to see more,

you know,

and they do that for all sports now.

Right.

Yeah.

It's been bigger and bigger

and you can rewatch it after too.

If you like watch the one coverage,

like you can rewatch the,

the premium one another time too.

Right.

I think you had a certain date last time,

right?

Where you could watch all.

So the one difference is last year,

you could not rewind the

premium coverage.

Okay.

This year you can.

Okay.

That's a good addition then.

And then it, when the event was over,

you could then go back and

watch replays of it all.

Great.

But this,

this year they're allowing that

from the start now.

And I think it's because

they're in Europe and some

of the events are going to

start at five in the

morning because the premium

coverage is not just CrossFit.

It's the strong man stuff too.

So,

and they have strong men come into the

tailgate and do stuff as well.

And they have a strong woman

this year too.

They do.

Yeah.

Yep.

And I know the strong man

schedule has been released

and some of those events

start five AM Eastern time

here in the States.

They haven't announced yet

anything on the schedule

for strong women or CrossFit yet?

All the strong sports, men and women,

have been announced.

It's just the CrossFit

that's not announced.

Yeah,

and I feel like Spin put out an

anticipated timeline with those breaks.

It looked pretty legit.

Spin's just been finding some

some diamonds lately always

yeah he works hard he's a

detective yeah I uh I

talked to him this week

because I I asked him for

permission for some stuff

uh just to be clear on some

things so um with that

we'll get into the next

piece of news um two more

positive tests in the

masters group sean ramirez uh second time

Two and two.

He would test a positive for

dihydroxy LGD-LGD-LGD-LGD-LGD-LGD.

I went,

if I'm going to know about steroids,

I go to Hiller's channel

because the man knows more

about steroids than anybody I know.

Apparently this stuff is

like the no joke steroid.

Like it is way more powerful

than the GW zero one five one six.

This stuff is like serious

shit that Murmure has got caught with.

Um, disappointing, but not surprised.

Very, very.

And then Jonathan Adele

tested positive for a variety of things.

Anastrozole exogenous

steroids X and metabolites

of GW five Oh one, five, one, six,

the typical one that everybody gets,

but he tried everything apparently.

So, um,

They both tested positive.

With that,

that brings us to three total in

the Masters division.

What is funny is this week

on the episode eight of the

behind the scenes of the

Masters CrossFit Games,

it was not even planned.

It was due to have all three

of their interviews show up this week.

So I do have a trailer.

This comes out tomorrow at

twelve thirty p.m.

Eastern Time.

I'm going to play the

trailer real quick because not only that,

on on a positive note,

a lot of the big names of the sport.

Like I tried to interview

everybody and anybody,

regardless of what their

place was or anything to

get a variety of takes from the weekend.

But it also happens that

episode eight is the standard.

Only the thirty five to

fifty four year olds did that event.

So it reduced the number of

people like in the warmup area.

So a lot of the big names of

the sport are in this episode,

as well as the three who popped.

So I just have a little clip

to preview tomorrow's episode.

Here we go.

Watch the original,

the first game that was at

original Reebok CrossFit club.

Still wearing them, still represent.

What's going on, man?

Ah, really good.

So you showed your hat.

Yeah, to be faster.

To be faster?

Yeah, in the run, but no, no.

So Will, last time I saw you,

you were laying in the back

at the Syndicate Crown with

a bunch of ice.

Oh, sure, yeah.

You were able to make it back?

Yeah, yeah, we...

we committed right when the

invites came out to this

but I didn't really think

that I was going to be able

to do it I just wanted to

kind of give myself the

option in case rehab and

everything went well so uh

it's been a while since we

went back on the floor oh

yeah uh feels like riding a

bike my friend

Yeah, same old stuff.

Nerves are the same.

It's a little bit different.

You know, it's a little less serious.

It's more fun, I'd say.

Say it again.

I'm kidding.

Do you want to ask me?

We'll take it.

We've been to a bunch of these.

How's this one different?

Oh my god.

I'm competing against giants.

The guys that are closest to

me are this tall.

They're huge giant men.

Jamie, I'm going to walk with you.

How was it?

You were moving on the snatches.

I needed to.

It was like everyone started catching me.

Yeah.

I'm not sure if it's first

thing in the morning, middle morning,

afternoon, night.

There's no good time to do the standard.

Never.

Never a good time to do the standard.

I love dancing.

To be back out here with all

these guys is a long time

awaited and it feels good.

It feels right.

Back where you're supposed to be.

Back where I'm supposed to be.

Pretty good weekend so far.

Yeah.

So it's in first place for the last event.

Yes, sir.

What are the nerves like?

No nerves.

He's here to send it.

That is why I love that.

That's amazing.

That those are just cuts of

their interviews.

When you see the full thing, they look,

it is cringy.

Maybe he should,

maybe he should have been

more nervous about the drug

tests because he wasn't nervous about the,

the comp.

No.

Yeah.

It is.

When you see the full interviews with them,

it is so cringy because they talk like,

like they have the world by the tail.

Um,

And the Ramirez one is the worst.

So I'm surprised that this

is the first time that we

have an athlete that is

testing positive for the second time.

And we're giving another four years,

right?

At this point,

it should be more severe the second time.

I don't know why it has to be the same.

It should be, you know what?

You've done it once, four years.

You've done it twice.

You're done.

Yes.

You're done.

Like, that's it.

Yep.

I don't know why it's

another same sentence.

Yeah.

I mean,

if he tries to come back in four years,

no one's going to respect that guy.

You're going to have no trust for him.

Not only is it a second time,

but if Hiller's correct,

he has upped the level of

the stuff he took.

Every sport is a

a scaled up suspension, the more you do it,

the longer the suspension becomes.

I agree.

As everybody in the,

is saying lifetime ban.

You're done.

That's it for CrossFit sanctioned events.

Do you,

if other competitions want to host

you and accept you that's on them,

but if CrossFit sanctioned events,

like that's it.

Second time.

Totally agree.

Or at least it's like eight years or,

you know, something that's significant.

Or it has more penalties for

repeat offenders.

Yeah.

I was very,

very surprised that it was the

same thing.

Did it, wait,

did it say four years or did

it just say that he popped?

Um, well,

Sean's has not come out cause

he's appealing it again.

But the other two are past

appeals and they both have

a four year ban so it's not

official that it's a four year ban,

I guess,

I shouldn't have put that in

there like that, but.

yeah.

yeah.

But here's the thing, right?

There's people like Jamie

and eighty percent of the

Masters field who are

getting discouraged and

don't even want to go

compete because why compete

if I'm at an unfair advantage?

Yep.

So if you're doing it twice,

see you in the Masters division.

Yeah.

That sport can't handle it.

having the threat of

cheaters all the time yeah

I don't know it's just it's

a joke at this point I just

and I feel like everyone

thinks that and it's sad

because everyone's like

well everyone's doing it

well everyone isn't doing

it but yeah there's a quite

a few that are making it

embarrassing what did

camille's husband say

what's his name um thunder

bro yeah uh lipson dave so

he made a comment it

that don't,

who wants to see a boring

natural competition?

Let the people up their T to

manageable levels and let's

see a good competition.

Well, that's not what's happening.

The stuff that these people

are taking GW five Oh one

five six is not testosterone.

It's not for no T right.

The stuff that,

that Ramirez took as

apparently a couple steps

above that in severity and effectiveness.

That is not for low T.

But there's a lot of,

I'm going to say male

masters that are taking

testosterone within

whatever range that they're allowed.

And like Hiller says,

like they can pass the,

the test and it's a big advantage.

Like there's just no way to

really catch that.

And that's,

that's the frustrating part too.

Um, but yeah, I,

Yeah.

I don't know what you do about that.

Cause you, I, yeah,

it sounds like you can't

test that unless you were

to do like a. An expensive test.

Yeah.

Which is never going to happen.

But then you're testing less people.

Right.

Like, I mean,

I was glad that they at least

tested the top five.

Um,

it would be nice to test a few at

randoms within each division.

Like let's say three at randoms.

Yeah.

Well, as a top five.

Yeah.

Um,

I think what happened this

year is and we kind of

talked about that on a chat

we did but I think Legends

is never tested the Masters

split off from the games

and there were people that

thought this is my shot to

do whatever I want and

succeed and so I'm going to

give it a shot because

they're probably not going to test

And then got there and went, oh, shit.

Yep.

I mean,

Jonathan Adele is not even appealing.

Right.

No.

During the competition,

when I saw him compete,

I literally sent his story to Lex.

And I was like,

look at this guy's back in

the forty to forty five,

forty to forty four.

I was like, this is not natural.

Like,

there's like the way his body was like.

I was like, this is.

Like,

it was so obvious and I'd never heard

of him.

And I was like, this is bad look.

Like, you could just tell.

It was... It's sad because, like,

he was so obvious.

But it's good, like...

some of the, like those,

like Rudy is getting

vindicated because it's come out,

but there's as obvious as he was,

there are other people that

are that obvious that are

never going to pop.

And it's frustrating as all

hell for someone.

And then there's people that

are less obvious that are

cheating as well.

So you just,

you just can't physically tell,

but there's cheating, but it's hard.

So I talked to Lynette earlier this week,

Lynette Berger, who is Rudy's wife.

vindication, man, you know,

he finished fourth,

he moves up to a podium spot,

but it doesn't happen at the event.

He doesn't get the metal,

like put around his,

it's the whole Pat Velner,

Ricky Gerard thing, right?

Like it happens a couple of

months later and what he's

going to get it in the mail.

Yeah, you lose your moment,

you lose your sponsorship

opportunity while you were

right off the... I mean,

not that there's as many

sponsorship opportunities

in the... But he is one of

the few that does get sponsors.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

There's some coverage that

you would have gotten,

maybe some interviews after the games.

A lot of missed opportunities.

It's just too bad.

They're just filled with mixed emotions.

And I think it's like,

why couldn't this have been

handled ahead of time?

What are you going to do ahead of time?

I understand we thought

everyone thought he was obvious.

There's other people

everyone thought was obvious.

I would be thrilled right

now if I was Rudy.

I'm just going to sit here

and salt for my fourth place.

We know, Jamie.

And we've all talked about that.

And the point is that... We

know what you deserve, Jamie.

We know.

We got you.

I think the difference is

Rudy has two gold medals, right?

For him,

it's mixed emotions because he's

had a taste of it.

You have never had a taste of a medal.

You would love that thing

mailed to you and

vindicated that someone was

called a cheater out of you.

I get it.

Different perspectives from

different athletes.

Just like there are people

at the games who are just

happy to be there and

others who want to win.

John Young says I fully

expect my back to be like

that when I'm forty Carolyn

and third in my heart Jamie

I saw you in person John

you're bigger than I

thought my muscular he's

bigger than I thought he'd

be yeah he's jacked he's

taller than I thought he'd be too so yeah

So yeah, check that out tomorrow.

You'll get the full bit.

The clung and the crash is

different in the full episode.

I made that up for the trailer.

The full episode is done a

little bit different,

but still just as dramatic.

Should be an exciting one.

Yeah.

And like I said,

all the big names are in this one.

You saw Jamie.

I finally make one.

You were in another one as well.

I don't think so.

I don't think I've been in any.

Facts.

I know you were.

And you're in one of the

ones coming up too.

So...

yeah so check that out

tomorrow at twelve thirty

p.m eastern time um I left

the line out where jamie

talks about everything

going to in her workout um

but that's really funny so

you have to check out the

full episode for that so

the the next thing we're

going to talk about and

probably the last thing for

the night is there's a

bunch of rumors out there

A bunch of rumors about that

CrossFit is going to go fully online.

That is one rumor until you

get to the CrossFit Games.

There is another rumor that

there are companies or

entities wanting to compete

against the CrossFit Games

at the same time.

spin found a website I was

able to pull it up as well

where dubai has a lot of

information about a season

I talked to jenny from

dense updates she because

she reached out to dubai

okay dubai said that they

never sold that um domain

name to anybody else but

it's fake news interesting

But why would you say you

didn't sell it to anybody else?

Anyway,

so they're all rumors and I have no

facts.

So what I wanted to kind of

twist this into is one, is it feasible?

Is it feasible that another

entity could put something

together that would

legitimately compete

against the CrossFit Games?

Other than Rogue, no.

I don't think rogue at this

point wants to compete against.

I mean,

people in Dubai would have the

money to do it.

Like you see,

you see soccer players going there.

You see golf,

like there's different

opportunities in Dubai that, I mean,

they would have the funding to generate,

to do something.

Now,

I don't know if they would call it

CrossFit, like,

like they're not affiliated with CrossFit,

but I can see like

different opportunities.

people trying and this is an

opportunity as they see

that CrossFit has a

weakness right now and they

have you know they're

vulnerable I guess after

the games and everything

that's happened and the

company like this is an

opportunity that I think a

lot of other people from

the outside might be

looking to talk and and see

if people can just go in a

different direction and

this is finally the time

that they could do it I'm

like I wouldn't be

surprised to see something

come up that's competing

with the season of CrossFit

I don't know any of the

information that people are

getting fed and leaked left and right,

but.

I feel like the problem with Dubai,

like I do think bigger

athletes would go there.

And I mean, they have in the past,

it's a pretty good prize person.

And like they pay for the

athletes to get there, which is huge.

So people are totally going

to be willing to go,

but they've got to do

something about their

coverage if they want to

grow that competition.

That's terrible.

I really here's my ideas

fall on two sides I don't

think there's anybody

prepared to put together a

season to compete against

the CrossFit Games if there

was there would be

information about it by now

Because some of the biggest

complaints about CrossFit

are that we never know what

the season is until it's almost the open.

And then everybody's

scrambling to get ready and

under a new set of rules

and a new structure of the

season and blah, blah, blah.

If I was competing against them,

I would want to release all

that information early.

And be that,

that's part of my selling point.

I've heard you in all the complaints.

We're going to do something

about it by one.

Here's a season structure.

This is what we're going

with now and forever.

Let's go.

Two.

If you're going to compete

against the games,

you need to be fan friendly.

The one thing that the games

do not equate into their or

put into their equation is

the fans and the spectators.

And that's why they struggle

to get people at events.

Because they don't give two

shits about us.

You're talking about the games?

The games.

In what way?

So...

Cause I feel like the games are packed.

What do you, what do you mean?

Sorry.

So the CrossFit games

themselves are packed,

but nothing leading up to it is.

Okay.

And even at the games, like it's okay.

Let's take rogue.

Rogue does things so well.

Premium package for

streaming that they offer.

It's the second year they're doing it.

Now the games has never

attempted anything like

that to make that more

friendly for the fans.

right?

Two,

they have the legends competition

where they have all the

legends from the past come

and then they do a happy

hour meet and greet where

you can buy a ticket to go

in and hang out with Sam

Briggs and hang out with Kristen, uh,

Holte and hang out with

Kristen Clever and Becca

Voigt and all these people

and just mingle.

Um,

When you go to Rogue, it's more open.

The athletes are walking

through the stands.

They're hanging out.

It's more fun.

I think there's different pressures,

though.

For most of the day.

There are athletes that sure

would not want to come out

and hang out in the crowd.

But there are other athletes that would.

But at the games,

it's kind of shunned upon.

Then you look at the

quarterfinals or the semifinals.

That's where the most pressure is.

That's where the most drama is.

And it's never advertised.

And you don't even know

about where it is or what

it is going to be until two

weeks before the event.

You can't even get media

credentials to any of them

for up until two weeks before.

So how do you even get help

promoting stuff?

If you're not letting people promote it,

nobody knows about it.

Yeah.

I mean, they should, I mean,

they have the most followers,

like the games account and stuff,

and they should be allowing, you know,

different third parties to,

to promote their event and to, um,

share information on it and everything.

But that part, like, I mean,

the media side needs to

promote the game side more,

but it might not be their goal, I guess.

I think they're conflicted

with the affiliate and the

CrossFit health and then the sport.

Like,

it just... They need to let go of

their ego and let the

third-party media promote.

Mm-hmm.

they don't let us in on

anything until it's way too

too late so we can't even

help them I'm not saying I

get it they're a small team

they've said that enough I

get it and they have other

priorities right now than than media

there are there's the

barbell spin there's savan

there's uh be friendly

fitness there is us there

is all these people out

there who've been around

for a very long time that

would promote what's going

on yeah there are small

teams doing great things in

the space um but let us

know put out press releases

so that we can make

announcements for them

We're in charge of the sport

and they can focus more on

the CrossFit health and use

the money more for the

affiliate and what CrossFit

was actually made for and general health.

Roger Goodell went on Pat McAfee.

That is using an independent

third-party media company

to promote your sport

because Pat McAfee speaks

to an audience that the NFL

doesn't normally get to.

Or Roger Goodell doesn't normally get to.

Let's say that.

There are plenty of options

out there for media

coverage to just take

simple press releases from

HQ and to promote your sport.

I think that the spectators have been...

something has been lost in

the equation because if you

don't have spectators,

you don't have a sport.

If nobody's watching the sport goes away.

Well, if you don't have the athletes,

you don't have the sport, but well, true.

They're part of the equation,

but athletes are figured in to some.

And I would even say that

CrossFit probably puts more

weight on themselves than they,

and then they have in the

past and the athletes and

the fans and the outside media.

I mean, I've heard them say, like,

let the athletes do what they want.

If they don't want to participate,

play more where they come from.

There is a difference

between special athletes

that people want to come

watch and the also-rans.

And you can't just, like,

throw away the baby with the bathwater.

but there are a lot of

people within this space

that have a lot of experience and like,

we just need to bring

people together to figure

this all out because you

don't want someone

completely new that are

going to continue to make

mistakes or don't really know how to,

how to run things just

because they have money.

Um,

like you still want it to be run well

and have it be sustainable

because we haven't seen a

sustainable model that's worked.

Like the games loses money

almost every single year.

Um,

But there's people that have

great ideas in the space.

So it's just like bringing

people together that have

experiences on the business side,

on the marketing side, athletes,

and figure out what do we

want the season to look

like and how do we want to

go forward with it.

I just feel like people just

are on different pages.

But you and I have talked

about the premium stream from Rogue.

I don't know how many people bought that.

I bought it just to support.

It's a way of recouping

money for the stream.

We know streams are expensive.

It's a way to become more sustainable.

But CrossFit isn't even looking at that.

I don't know.

I was in Texas,

but I had bought the stream

just because I know I would

want to see if I was home,

so I wanted that to

continue the following year.

So I'm like,

I'm just going to buy it just

so that they know that this

is something that's

important and we want more of this.

But yeah.

Across that says,

Roger Goodell also doesn't

make official announcements

with vague pics of American literature.

That is a point.

Too many egos and too many

people that only care about

making money for themselves.

I do feel there is this

piece of it is that the

CrossFit Games were always like a club.

Right?

And as it attempted to grow,

people didn't want to let go of the club.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Clooney says,

do we know for sure the

game's actually lost money?

That one gets me every time.

It's the same as like legends.

Like when you go through these,

when you go through these entry fees,

ticket costs, sure.

I like,

I don't know the cost of the venues

and stuff, but it,

it would be very surprising to me.

And Patrick says, yes, but like,

Are you saying the CrossFit

game season loses money?

Because I can be on board with that.

But I find it hard to

believe that the games loses money.

Just that event.

Yeah.

I guess I don't know when they say that,

whether they mean the whole season.

Right.

And that is the cost of the

semifinals mostly,

which comes back to your

point of if that was online

and then they just focused

on generating revenue with the open,

the quarter slash semis,

and then putting on the

event for the sport side of things.

Um,

Yeah, I don't know.

But I don't know enough about.

I'm not saying they're rolling in the show,

but they get a huge title sponsor.

They get tons of vendors in there.

Ten, twenty grand a pop.

Like,

I think they're I think they're at

least breaking even personally.

It's one of those things

you'll never know.

I know.

It took Major League

Baseball Players

Association years and years

of fighting and strikes and

all that to get the owners

to open up their books and

prove to them if they were

losing or not losing money.

Right.

Right.

We only know what they want us to know.

So...

And I understand.

So Patrick is saying the

broadcast alone is to five

hundred K and the venue is

five hundred K. I get that.

But there is income as well

for the from the season.

And there's income that the vendor.

And we've seen the vendor.

Like we know what they pay.

Those are some big chunks of

change that vendors are paying.

And then we want paid judges so that,

you know, they could just.

Right.

I can see like that.

Income coming in.

Yeah.

For sure.

For five hundred dollars a piece.

So expensive.

Right.

Like.

I don't know.

Maybe they'll make money

with the documentary that

comes out next year.

All the DVD sales.

But theoretically,

we should get some news

soon from the season.

If you look at when the

rulebook was released last year,

it was early November, we said last time.

It was November, I think, last year.

I don't even know if we're

even close to that.

We haven't gotten any

information on the

third-party investigation, the rulebook,

what's happening next year,

these new leagues.

It's just kind of been...

Nothing except for this new

YouTube channel that's

launching with the CrossFit training.

So I guess we're just waiting right now.

No world rankings too.

Yeah,

no world rankings is a big indicator

that something's changing again.

And I saw some comments in

here like the bottom twenty

never factor in.

Well,

that's because we don't have the

forty fittest people there.

right right the format we

have does not bring the

forty fittest people to the

crossfit games correct it

brings people from all over

the world together to

compete and in that is some

of the fittest people in

the world but if you but

then you have the idea that

they're you know trying to

grow the sport and and

trying to be as inclusive in terms of

when someone comes from one region,

it starts pushing the next

person and hopefully, you know,

the sport grows outside of, you know,

where it began,

which is in the States and North America,

then in Europe, Australia is picking up.

Um, but yeah.

So I think those are things that like,

that's another thing that I would,

I would factor in if I was

creating my own league, um,

I was creating my own league

I would I wouldn't I don't

need it to be an olympic

sport I don't need to bring

people from every country

right you put the best of

the best on the field and

then you grow the sport

with people around and

people wanting to watch it

then eventually it will

grow throughout um throughout the world

So John says no world

ranking is a good thing.

They were trash,

but I like the idea of ranking.

Ranking is in every single sport.

You play college sports.

There's a ranking.

You play professional sports.

There's a ranking.

I don't like their system may not be good,

but there should be some

sort of ranking of the athletes.

Yeah.

And just figuring out what that looks like,

like,

but the idea was at least good to

start a world ranking of

some sort that goes beyond

just looking at the games.

So I think there's a lot

more to the season than the games.

It's just what comp should

we be including?

How many years and all of

that need to get figured out.

But the concept of having that is good.

Yeah.

And being able to say, you know,

you're ranked right now in the world.

Seventeenth or whatever it is.

Can help athletes in terms of.

Sponsorships and just.

It does make it more professional.

And it's.

I think it's important to

look outside of the games.

You can't just be like, oh, this,

the games is this.

And that's,

that's your ranking for the full year.

Like there's so much more than the games.

Because there's some people in the games,

like you said, that are ranked higher.

But.

I think the spin poll is

better than the world rankings, though.

Yeah, for sure.

And I think that if that was

refined and defined as right now,

who do you think are the top people?

You could do a top-forty ranking.

Because I think right now it's like,

who do you think will make

it to the games?

Because as we got closer,

our choices narrowed to those eligible.

So, but I think that,

I think the spin poll is

awesome and gives a ranking, um,

that's more accurate than

the world rankings.

Um, it doesn't need to be a fancy formula.

I mean, college football is used to, uh,

a media poll forever.

They still use it today.

College football, college basketball, um,

But that way you could say, well,

I'm the eighth ranked

person in the world or I'm the... I mean,

I feel like that's just the

leaderboard though.

There are people that are

voting that it's just

opinion base and just who

they know better.

And sometimes they're

putting people that they

don't know as well.

So you would need to maybe

change up and have... I

don't know if you have different people,

but

I do see what Patrick is

saying in terms of there

are a lot of biases in certain.

But that is an argument in

college football for a hundred years.

Yeah.

Right.

You just know that it exists.

I complain all the time that

Penn State gets knocked.

They had a bye week and lost

a place in the ranking and

they couldn't win or lose that week.

And yet they still lost a

spot in the ranking.

I bitch about the opinions all the time.

it's better than well they

went team last year so none

nothing they did even

counts or like those are

just stupid rules to this

world ranking formula um so

yeah it has biases but it's

better than the thing they

put together for a world

ranking but theirs is objective

Like, it's just like,

this is your openness.

Like there's nothing that you can like,

it's, there's no,

there's no opinion base.

It's just factual.

So I don't mind that either.

Right.

I think there should be

certain competitions that

you can accumulate points

and it goes into this world.

These are the competitions

that count towards worldwide rankings.

Sure,

but you can't make the games count

thirty times because

there's people that aren't

getting in who are fitter

than the fortieth person

that got in and deserve to

be ahead of them on this ranking.

It just should be one point

just like everything else.

I still think there's an

increase in the value there

versus some of the other ones for sure,

but maybe not as much.

So John Young is poking the

bear on a bad night for me.

Me and friend are usually

within three to five people

in literally everything.

He likes Europe more than I

like America more,

but it's better than

picking Saxon to win.

I never freaking pick Saxon to win.

I said he would have a good semifinal.

That was it.

my,

my picks for are usually pretty good

for the spin pole.

I would say that Lex and I's

picks are often very good as well.

Pretty accurate.

Um, but yeah, uh,

I, so anyway,

I do think there should be a

world ranking and if you

want to come up with a formula,

I'm fine with it.

But just because Annie had a

baby last year,

doesn't mean she lost all

of her fitness and doesn't belong in it.

Like there's gotta be a way

to factor those people in.

That's all.

Um, or because Noah went team,

he lost all his fitness and

he's not one of the fifty

fittest people in the world.

Because Noah is still one of

the fifty fittest people in the world.

That's all.

So anyway, I'm off that soapbox.

So we've come to the

conclusion that really we

don't think there's anybody

out there that could really

have a competing league to

go up against CrossFit at this point.

One, we're way too late in the season.

If you're starting from scratch,

you need to get your shit together quick.

yeah I mean I feel like

you'd have to piggyback off

of the game season use the

open but then you're

shooting yourself in the

foot with a qualifier entry

fees yeah man there's so

many comments coming in I

can't hardly even keep up with them um

No, we should not include Rich.

If you're retired, you're retired.

If he's going to go bike, he can go bike.

I get what he's saying

because I do feel like it's hard.

Do we think Noah's super fit?

Yeah,

but I feel like if you aren't going

to do individual,

it's even tough to truly rank you.

If you've moved on to team... Yeah.

It just seems so last minute

that we're getting the information.

Right.

Yeah.

So if we found out Noah was

going to come back into

individual this year.

He shouldn't start at a

hundred and fiftieth.

Agree.

If he decides he's going individual.

Right.

And again, I'm okay with the formula,

but just don't ignore some

of the obvious things.

Yes.

That's all.

Yeah.

Well, I think that's it for tonight.

That's enough.

I need to go cry in my chocolate milk.

Watch the reruns of the Hail Mary.

And you know, because I'm a Bears fan,

you know the minute I turn on YouTube,

it's going to be every

YouTube video about the end of that game.

That's what's going to come

up in my algorithm.

for the next forty eight

hours man three seconds one

throw anyway alright guys

don't forget to like and

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and man tomorrow is going

to be a fun episode of the

behind the scenes of masters

CrossFit Games.

If you missed the trailer earlier,

I'll put it out on Instagram tonight.

And you can see just little

clips of the three people that popped,

plus Will Morad and Jamie

Latimer and Bronislaw

Linkwitz and Jason Grubb.

Bron talking about shaving

his head to be faster on the run.

And then it didn't work.

That still makes me laugh

every time I hear it.

All those clips are much

more extended in the behind the scenes.

And I think it's probably

the best episode so far.

So with that, guys,

make sure you check that

out tomorrow at twelve thirty.

I'll be in the chat as it goes live.

If you want to comment on

anything and kind of chat about that.

Anything else that you think

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